So you are saying that you know for sure that 'John Cedars' has filed a DBA (Doing Business As) statement with the State of Arizona?
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
JoinedPosts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas
-
162
AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective
by NoRegrets inhere's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
-
-
-
162
AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective
by NoRegrets inhere's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
You're probably right. The Arizona Corporation Commission wouldn't know dick about Arizona corporate law. I'll be sure to place a call in to the Arizona State Police and ask to speak to a 'cop' for his opinion. I'll let you all know how all that flushes.
-
39
My View and Bobby Dylan's View of AntiWatchtower Special Groups
by Band on the Run inmy computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.
i must vent, however.
perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Angharad is right - the AAWA threads were shut down because the points were already made and were being rehashed. This one stays open because it's the first "I hate AAWA because I wasn't invited to be on the Board of Directors" thread.
-
56
If you started an organisation (related to exposing the Watchtower, helping Jw's who are disfellowshipped, or any other worthy cause).. What would it be called and what would you aim to achieve?
by The Quiet One in...?.
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
I'll take that name, Witness My Fury. I'll be incorporating that under the pseudonym of Don Juan Diego de las Malvinas, and I'll be taking and soliciting donations. Cash or check only. If you want to know who to make the check out to, my best friends call me 'Cash'.
-
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Posted on behalf of fizzywiglet, at her request, in response to Chaserious:
"Except that I checked the IRS's 501(c)3 list, and AAWA isn't on it. They may have applied for nonprofit status, but they haven't been approved yet...that generally takes between 2 and 12 months.
In any event, you are incorrect to think the attorney probably advised them on this. I used to work for an attorney, and I have filled out and submitted the incorporation paperwork on that attorney's behalf, as his paralegal. It was a perfectly routine process. The attorney doesn't do background checks or ask for proof of I.D. or anything; we asked the client for the basic info (names and addresses of board members, etc.), filled out the paperwork, mailed it in, billed our client a few hundred or $1,000 for it.
The attorney who submitted the paperwork on Richard Kelly's behalf would have no reason to suspect that a name/address was false unless Richard Kelly brought it up to him." -
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
According to ARS 10-3202, Subsection I (for non-profits):
Any person who executed or contributed information for a certificate of disclosure and who intentionally makes any untrue statement of material fact or withholds any material fact with regard to the information required in subsection D, paragraph 1 of this section is guilty of a class 6 felony.
This is in line with the same exact information that the ACC representative provided fizzywiglet.
Notice this includes not only the person who executed the COD (the Incorporator), but anyone who 'contributed information'. This would apply to cedars as well, since he came up with the alias 'John Cedars' and provided such information, and not Mr Kelly.
-
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
However, the ACC response was in response to a direct question whether or not using an alias was against the law. Evidently they do consider using an alias to be a misrepresentation. I invite fizzywiglet to post what exactly she asked the ACC.
[edit - thanks for the clarification, fizzywiglet]
-
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
It's really unworthy of serious consideration by anyone with a brain when they don't take what the ACC says at face value. Unless you are accusing fizzywiglet of manufacturing or adulterating her entire exchange with the ACC, then your 'don't take anything unless it is from an attorney' line doesn't really add up. The facts remain: John Cedars is an alias. John Cedars is registered as the president of the AAWA on the Articles of Incorporation in Arizona. It is a class 6 felony to misrepresent information when applying for this charter. Unless you can prove that these three things are false, then you are speaking about something you have no idea what you are talking about.
Hearsay?
-
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
He's in an Eastern European country which might not even have an extradition treaty with the US. It's all on Kelly.
-
159
Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?
by wha happened? ini guess we're persona non grata now.
take a look at what i found on facebook:.
we're firing up the grill again!
-
-
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Actually I think the onus would be on Mr Kelly. John Cedars does not exist, and the person claiming to be him is safely outside the jurisdiction of the authority. According to his own admission, cedars is a UK citizen living in a small Eastern European country. If all this gets blown up, it'll be Kelly on the stand, explaining who, why, when, what, and where about John Cedars. I feel that the AAWA should get on this for Mr Kelly's sake alone.